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MINUTES OF THE FORTY EIGHTH MEETING OF SOUTH
EAST ENGLAND DEVELOPMENT AGENCY

HELD ON 11TH JUNE AT THE OFFICE FOR MANPOWER ECONOMICS, LONDON

    Present

    James Brathwaite CBE (Chairman - morning only)
    Professor Sir Clive Booth (Deputy Chairman: chaired afternoon session)
    Cllr. Ken Bodfish OBE (Deputy Chairman)
    Barry Camfield
    Poul Christensen
    Robert Douglas
    Cllr. Sarah Hohler
    Cllr. Keith House
    Janis Kong OBE
    Mary McAnally
    Terry Mills
    John Peel
    Dr Peter Read CBE

    In Attendance

    Anthony Dunnett SEEDA, Chief Executive
    Marianne Neville-Rolfe Agency Secretary and Director, Strategy and Corporate Services
    Paul Hudson SEEDA, Director, Development and Infrastructure
    John Parsonage SEEDA, Director, Learning and Skills
    Charlotte Dixon SEEDA, Director, Economic Inclusion and Sustainability
    Jeff Alexander SEEDA, Director, Business and International
    Genie Turton ODPM, Director General for Housing, Homelessness, Planning and PINS (Planning Inspectorate (agenda items 7 and 8)
    Philip Hammond MP Conservative front bench spokesman on regional governance (agenda item 10)
    Jonathan Sadler SEEDA, Project Director for Chatham Maritime (agenda item 9)
    Paul Martin Regional Director, Government Office of the South East (GOSE)
    Paul Bevan Chief Executive, South East Regional Assembly (SEERA)

    Item 1 Welcome and Apologies for absence

    Apologies were received from:
    Elizabeth Brighouse
    Cllr. Thornber CBE

    Item 2 Minutes of last meeting (2nd May 2003)

    Matters arising

  1. The minutes were approved as a correct record of the Board meeting of 2nd May, subject to one minor correction of the text and were signed by the Chairman.
  2. The action items were reported as in hand. The Minister for Energy has agreed to meet the Chairman although a date has yet to be set. (NB since the Board meeting, the Minister has changed to Stephen Timms and a fresh approach has been made to his office). The Audit committee will pursue the action items arising from the presentation by the NAO. John Parsonage and Rob Douglas have met to take forward the action items from the Higher Education White Paper, and the ensuing board discussion on related topics including a brokered bursary scheme and modern apprenticeships.
  3. The Chief Executive announced his decision to step down at the end of the year when his contract expired. He thanked the Board for its support during his five year tenure, saying that he would leave with regret but that it was time both to hand over to someone else and for him to pursue other interests. Members expressed their appreciation of his stewardship and also for being informed in person. The appointment procedure was outlined. The appointment will be made by the Chairman following an international search by consultants and consultation with Dti who view this as a critical appointment.
  4. Item 3 Declarations of Interest

  5. Janis Kong, as Chairman of Heathrow, expressed an interest in item 5, the SERAS report on the future development of Air Transport.
  6. Sarah Hohler, as a member of Kent County Council, expressed an interest in item 12(4) which relates to Locate in Kent and East Kent Access.
  7. Ken Bodfish, as a member of Brighton and Hove Council, expressed an interest in item 12(2) as his Council is involved in Regional Selective Assistance.
  8. Although he would have to leave the meeting before item 13, Universities of Medway, Jim Brathwaite notified the Board that he is a member of the Court of the University of Greenwich.
  9. Item 4 Chairman's Report

  10. The Chairman highlighted his meetings with Lord Rooker and John Spellar, Minister of Transport, from his list of visits. He expressed concern that the Department appeared to be focusing on small, local, transport issues (especially with respect to the SRA) rather than taking a wider, large-scale view.
  11. Andrew Smith MP, Minister of State at the Department of Work and Pensions, joined the visit to Oxford. One of the main concerns discussed during the visit related to affordable housing. The Minister offered to chair a forum within the city to discuss the issues raised.
  12. The Chairman had a constructive lunch with the Chairman of English Heritage, discussing areas for future cooperative working.
    Item 5 SERAS Update

  13. Janis Kong refrained from participating, and took no part, in the general debate. She was asked for and made a factual response to a number of technical questions raised. She did not offer opinions. The Board specifically asked her to remain in the Board meeting while this item was being discussed.
  14. Following the High Court decision that Gatwick should be included in the consultation process on future aviation growth in the South East, York Aviation was commissioned again by the RDAs to produce a combined response.
  15. Paul Hudson introduced the paper, highlighting that SEEDA's perspective is conditioned by the review of sustainability. The Board reaffirmed its endorsement of the unique role of Heathrow, as a national as well as a regional asset, and that a multi-hub solution is not a viable option. Thirty-year forecasting is a difficult art, requiring a strategy that can accommodate change and be accelerated if necessary. It was noted that the Regional Assembly, which has a different remit, takes a different view from SEEDA, but the Board felt that while this should be borne in mind, it should not specifically deter or constrain the Board's deliberations and recommendations. Sarah Hohler sits on both and can act as a communication channel.
  16. Members agreed that it was important to recognise the requirements on the industry to meet fully the environmental costs that it generates. Recognising that the issue is complex and that paper provides a summary of many volumes of analysis. Mary McAnally expressed concern that the Cliffe option and the true environmental costs of Heathrow had not been fully covered in the paper. She wanted to see more analysis of Cliffe, which Paul Hudson will supply. The long lead-in time for a new airport meant that some expansion at other airports would still be needed to cope with immediate needs.
  17. If Gatwick did not expand but became a centre for low-cost airlines, some members expressed concern that the present business benefits of Gatwick would reduce and companies (especially from the US) would move abroad. The South East's airports are a major economic generator within the local economy, creating jobs within their own operations and in the surrounding area. There was discussion on the legal agreement currently operating on Gatwick.
  18. The position and role of a low-cost airlines and the airlines' willingness to engage in meeting external costs were discussed. The issue of American carriers and access to Heathrow and Gatwick was also reviewed.
  19. After extensive discussions, and advice from Paul Martin, the Board agreed that it would not be necessary to challenge the framework of the legal agreement in order to accelerate the development of Gatwick. The current agreement allows for an expansion of 8mn passengers, which is a considerable increase.
  20. Subject to Paul Hudson redrafting the section on future aviation growth, the Board agreed the recommendation that the first priority would remain as a short runway at Heathrow, then for a second runway at Stansted with a second runway at Gatwick as a third development if required and before a third runway at Stansted.
  21. ACTION
    Paul Hudson to provide analytical data on developing Cliffe to Mary McAnally.
    Paul Hudson to strengthen comment on future aviation growth.

    Item 6 Business and International Division Update

  22. Jeff Alexander presented an update on BID's programme, covering the division's three top priorities: enterprise hubs and gateways; clusters and sectors and global regions. A copy of his presentation is attached to the minutes.
  23. Hub directors are enthusiastically taking forward innovation and linking into business boffins on the learning and skills side. Two new developments are the plans for an accelerator by the end of the year to start to meet the demand, especially from the pharmabio sector, for move on space, and an international hub. This will provide a 'soft landing' for companies wishing to set up in the South East and is part of the two-way networking that is an integral part of the success of Hubs. There is now a good spread of hubs and gateways across region, with future focus on gateways and expanding the outreach from hubs.
  24. The work within sectors and clusters is refining into some fruitful initiatives such as the Sector Skills Councils and the FRESA. Networking into SMEs is seen as vital, encouraging them to collaborate for contracts so they can compete against the large companies. The SEEDA sponsored MAS has been very successful and will be developed further in the coming year. Oxford Engineering, the firm visited by the Secretary of State, has saved £500,000 from an annual turnover of £8m following advice given by the MAS. On the cluster side, there is a language cluster developing from the immigrant community who could help businesses into the European market.
  25. On the international scene, there is a lot of activity, but the challenge is to translate that into realizing jobs. The focus is shifting away from traditional inward investment towards two-way trade.
  26. Members felt that the team should further develop contacts with the large companies within the region and develop relationships with their parent-company headquarters. This is an area that can be facilitated by our expanding range of overseas agents who are increasingly housed with local development bodies and are thus well placed to pick up on emerging developments. This joint working in partnership with other global regions is well received by the regions concerned. SEEDA is pursuing joint representation with other RDAs where appropriate. Our representatives abroad are not only a SEEDA resource, helping us to meet our inward investment outputs, but can also be of assistance to businesses and universities from the region.
  27. ACTION
    Peter Read to take forward contact with the largest companies through the Business Group.
    John Peel to report back to BID once he has visited all the Enterprise Hubs.

    Item 7 Presentation by Genie Turton from ODPM: Departmental priorities with respect to RDAs

  28. Implementing the Communities Plan is the most important undertaking in the Department of the Deputy Prime Minister, with cross Whitehall contributions to ensure its success. Housing has been named as a constraint to joining the euro, so has risen even higher up the political agenda. The aim of the plan is to tackle the mis-match between supply and demand without either scrapping planning controls or repeating past mistakes. At current rates of build, each house will have to last 1000 years. It is as important to tackle housing failure and the neglected housing stock in the north, as it is to build a million new homes over the next 15 years, primarily in the south.
  29. The RDAs are central to the communities plan as they provide the economic context for where the houses are being built. Parts of the Thames Gateway will be used as exemplars. It is particularly important to have the active participation of the Department of Health and for RDAs to drive the skills for jobs agenda. Housing funding will be focused on the communities plan, so other initiatives such as the regional housing boards and regional spatial strategies need to be tied into the communities plan.
  30. There is a surprising shortage of specific information on the detailed needs of type and location for key worker housing, in spite of the wide spread general acknowledgement for it to be provided. A new team in ODPM is working closely with English Partnerships and the Housing Corporation (and the new Regional Housing Board on which SEEDA sits) on targeting the £1bn over 3 years that will be spent on key-worker housing in the south east, although it will also need some sort of employer contribution such as a rental or mortgage guarantee or provision of the land. The issue of housing in allocation and key-worker housing will be fully discussed in the new Regional Housing Board on which SEEDA sits.
  31. Two new reviews have been announced: the Barker review of the house-building industry and the Egan review of the skills and capacity required to deliver sustainable communities. The Barker review will incorporate a consideration of the planning system but is not purely focused on that. SEEDA staff are involved in facilitating the Egan review. Sir John Egan will be identifying both the critical constraints and the real drivers of sustainable communities. This is a challenging agenda, but one that presents great opportunities and RDAs are fundamental to its success.
  32. During the ensuing discussion, members expressed the need for local authorities to take a more strategic look at housing provision across markets, rather than concentrating on managing stock and transfer issues. They could also address land supply issues by removing specific zoning in favour of mixed-use development. The Regional Housing Board has a key role. A fresh look at existing buildings could reveal options for better use.
  33. The issue of affordability is more complex than purely a need for starter homes. Home ownership options impact on staff retention. Members voiced the need for housing of all sorts, including keeping housing in the long-term rental sector. Key worker and affordable housing needs to be integrated into, and indistinguishable from, other new housing. The Department is exploring new styles of mortgages.
  34. Some land that could be used for housing would require infrastructure investment to unlock it, especially along the south coast. Kent County Council estimates that £7bn of infrastructure investment is required for the Communities Plan to be viable in Kent. These areas are expected to accommodate half a million houses, but the Department of Transport's budget is already over-committed until 2010. Novel ways of funding infrastructure are being investigated, especially at key points where a small investment can have significant impact. Other Departments, particularly Health and Education, are also expected to target their funding towards the growth areas, since these communities are planned to meet the needs of an existing population. Mary McAnally pointed out that the DCMS could also be involved through the important role played by sport and culture in creating and maintaining communities.
  35. The Chief Executive asked that the Department allows the RDAs to start land acquisition before any announcements on allocations are made that will result in costs increasing. SEEDA has not got sufficient spare capacity to start to buy land and property without a guarantee of funding from the Department, but is ready to commence purchasing and thus show quick wins within 12 months. He requested that the Department allowed the RDA to prioritise rather than have all decisions made centrally.
  36. ACTION
    RDA to encourage own networks to feed into ODPM evidence base of specific need (type and location) for affordable housing.
    Anthony Dunnett to write to Department requesting advance guarantee of funding to be available before the summer break.

    Item 8 Housing

  37. The paper presented by Paul Hudson was noted. In discussion, members agreed that local authorities (members and officers) were constrained in planning matters from strategic considerations by the legal advice they received. A cultural shift to development rather than control is required.
  38. There is little scope for land to come forward from the NHS overall as most of its holdings are now handed over to individual trusts. Opportunities exist for county councils to work with Primary Care Trusts and Housing Associations in a wider context to benefit public sector employees in general. There is a surprising lack of information on needs across the public sector, and it is difficult to determine who has responsibility within the Health Service for progressing such an initiative since there has been devolution from the regional level. Mapping of average wages against house prices would indicate where affordability is most acute.
  39. ACTION
    Social Dialogue Committee to engage in consideration of achieving the necessary regional pay bargaining

    Item 9 Major project update report: Chatham Maritime

  40. Jonathan Sadler, Project Director for Chatham Maritime and Rochester Riverside, presented an update report on this major component of SEEDA's expenditure, so that members could be assured that expenditure was in line with the business plan. The slides from the presentation are attached to these minutes. Chatham will benefit from the housing part of the communities plan in Thames Gateway. The Board noted and supported the progress reported by the executive against the Business Plan
  41. Outputs are on target to be met, and plans are progressing to increase the number of housing units on site to its capacity of 2,200. Chatham Maritime is a mixed development, with jobs, recreation, education, housing and community facilities all provided. The appropriate development platform to attract the private sector, including the restoration of listed buildings, has taken considerable capital expenditure, but there will be a return in about five years time when assets could be sold. Major developments have been identified for all the outstanding sites.
  42. The rate of development on St Mary's Island slowed whilst the design brief was reconsidered, in the light of enhanced quality and sustainability specifications, increased density requirements, and expressions of interest were invited from other architects. Take up has been very high in the sectors already marketed, with a different product style in each sector. The units on the island range from one-bedroom flats to five-bedroom houses. The percentage of social housing is due to be increased from 12% (as agreed with the local authority) to 15% (with the view to increasing the level of key-worker housing). Medway is well supplied with affordable housing but there is an expressed need for housing for business managers. The market could easily support a doubling of production at Chatham Maritime.
  43. The Board reviewed the present building rate, and after due consideration, encouraged the executive to increase the build rate from 100 to 200 units per annum providing the appropriate Letter of Comfort to the JV partners' bankers.
  44. During a wider discussion on SEEDA's restricted ability to drive significant regeneration projects, the Board agreed that SEEDA's budget was inadequate to fulfil its programmes and implement the RES within the allotted timescale. Priorities were too often having to be set below capabilities. Research is needed to quantify how much additional funding would be required for the region to deliver what is needed, and the outputs that could be expected from a further £50m.
  45. ACTION
    Board to request additional funding on the basis of research

    Item 10: Presentation by Philip Hammond, MP

  46. Philip Hammond introduced himself as the regional policy spokesman for the Opposition Front Bench and the MP for Runnymede. He outlined the current Tory position with respect firstly to the Government's regional agenda and then to RDAs.
  47. His party's objections to elected regional assemblies were based on the following points:
    • They considered the approach did not have sufficient support outside the ODPM
    • The 'English question' on representation has been neither sufficiently debated nor adequately addressed
    • Most regions are artificially drawn; lack credibility as units for democratic accountability; and are bureaucratic functions only
    • Power will be drawn from lower tiers and costs will spiral. Representatives will be from large constituencies, and the compulsory introduction of unitary authorities will disenfranchise rural minorities, even in the north
    • His party would prefer to see existing local authorities as enablers as well as providers of services, allowing flexibility and diversity of structure rather than always using same defined regional groupings
    • There has been no clear planning beyond the first tranche of elected assemblies, and inaccurate information on their purpose and remit in those regions where elections will be held
    • No existing elected Regional Assembly would be abolished without a further referendum
  48. The Party's stance on RDAs has evolved due to the support from business for RDAs, who value the long-term perspective they give because they are not constrained by electoral cycles. The party policy is being reviewed: there is scepticism as to whether RDAs would be as effective if controlled by elected assemblies and lost their business led advantage.
  49. Mr Hammond acknowledged the importance of the SE to the national economy and that businesses that left this region were more likely to locate abroad than in the rest of the UK, although he cautioned that the public see competition between the regions for the same inward investment that duplicated effort as wasteful.
  50. He highlighted politically sensitive issues (Thames Gateway, expansion at Heathrow, Airtrack etc.) and considered that the perception of voters would be sensitive to how SEEDA reacted to these big projects.
  51. During discussion, members discussed the conflict between wanting investment but not wanting the accompanying housing. They also wanted to know the Conservative policy towards other agencies like the LSCs who work closely with SEEDA, and whose role will also be subjected to scrutiny by elected assemblies. Members pointed out that the success of RDAs has been to break down the silos that exist in Whitehall and make effective partnerships.
  52. Members indicated that in their opinions, there is a regional identity, and far from thinking of London as integral to the SE, many celebrated that they lived outside the capital. RDAs are not parochial, but working for the good of the country as a whole. Members questioned where accountability for public money should lie and whether the Tory party might retain the status quo with indirectly elected assemblies. The Chief Executive pointed out that as accounting officer, he is directly answerable to Parliament and thus to elected members. Mr Hammond said that his party's policy on assemblies and accountability for RDAs was still under consideration and that he would feed back the views of SEEDA members expressed to him.
  53. Item 11 GOSE/Regional Assembly Report

  54. Paul Bevan, Chief Executive of SEERA, reported on recent activity within the Regional Assembly. The elections had slightly, but not significantly, shifted the political balance within the Assembly. The Regional Transport Strategy is out for consultation, with SEEDA a key participant. SEERA wish to ensure that the RTS gets to the Secretary of State by at the end of July. The planning committee is considering SERAS.
  55. Work has started on the Regional Spatial Strategy that will be delivered by 2006. Housing allocations at district level are controversial. The Assembly has been told to continue working on the strategy even though the legislation that enables it to replaces local structure plans has been delayed until the next parliamentary session.
  56. Paul Martin, Regional Director, GOSE, referred to joint GO, SEERA and SEEDA work on the target relating to regional disparities in growth (PSA 2). It is mathematically challenging to narrow the gap between regions whilst all are tasked with growing faster. Consultants have been instructed to get better data, including on intra-regional disparities in performance.
  57. Anthony Dunnett reported in the absence of the Chairman that Jim Brathwaite had been invited by the ODPM (and Treasury) to work on behalf of all RDAs on the development of that particular target in time for SR 2004. Treasury are encouraging targets to be set iteratively, from the bottom up rather than coming down from the Departments. This should enable them to be regionally driven. Sound regional statistics are an essential part of the process, which will take six months of intensive work to produce. PSA 2 is seen in other regions as a useful lever for addressing disparity in other agendas such as science policy and relocation of civil servants. The southern regions need to co-operate to argue their own case. This should be an ongoing agenda item for meetings of the South East Science and Technology Advisory Council (SESTAC)
  58. ACTION
    John Parsonage to ensure PSA 2 is discussed at a future SESTAC meeting

    Item 12 Chief Executive's Report

    General Report

  59. The Chief Executive apologised for the length of his report, which reflects the ever-increasing volume of activity within the agency. Members agreed that it provided a useful summary for public information as it is published on the website.
  60. There will be a fuller presentation on the results of the stakeholder survey undertaken by MORI at the next board meeting. Overall, SEEDA has been shown to be a top performer, ranked second to North West.
  61. Joint submissions for funding in all three growth areas have been made with partners. The proposal for a higher education facility at Milton Keynes, along the Hastings model, was welcomed.
  62. Regional Selective Assistance Scheme (RSA)

  63. The report was noted by members, who were pleased to see the level of assistance that had been offered since SEEDA took over responsibility for the scheme from GOSE whilst acknowledging the budgetary strains caused by its success. The management of RSA will be discussed by the audit committee.

  64. Broadband Update

  65. The Chief Executive presented the quarterly update on the broadband programme which reflected considerable activity in an ambitious programme. Broadband has considerable educational and business implications, and requires bold expenditure decisions above the original profile. Progress on spend can reviewed later in the autumn if necessary as the programme develops. Additional resources may be available from the communities plan.

  66. The board approved the increased rate of expenditure on broadband to £5m a year over the next three years, which is an increase on the allocation documented in the Corporate Plan.
  67. Action
    MPC to review in 6 months

    Item 14 Operational Review

    Finance Report

  68. The operational and programme report to the end of May were noted. The year has got off to a good start with a higher rate of spend than in previous years. The new systems being implemented will improve the accuracy of reporting committed spend.
  69. Annual Report and Accounts

  70. Marianne Neville-Rolfe presented the text of the Annual Report for 2002-03. The numbers will be reviewed by the audit committee before the board sees the final version. The text is longer than in past years, reflecting the ever-increasing range and rate of activity. In spite of Dti's preference for shorter texts, the Board agreed with the Executive that the text should not be cut and that the annual report should remain as a comprehensive public account to the region. The Chief Executive's review acts as an Executive Summary.
  71. The annual report will be sealed by the NAO, after which it cannot be changed, and laid before Parliament before the recess. The Chief Executive monitors the preparation of the published version to ensure it is well presented.

  72. Members asked the executive to ensure that SEEDA's statement of service standards makes clear that either an acknowledgement (for issues that require fuller investigation) or a full response is sent within five days, with longer replies within ten.
  73. The Board approved the annual report, subject to the amendments discussed.
  74. Contracts Report

  75. The contract report was noted. There were no conflicts of interest with suppliers expressed.
  76. Item 13 AOB

  77. Members agreed that they found it useful to have the notes from the RDA Chairs' meeting on their web pages.
  78. Item 14 Date of Next Meeting

  79. The next meeting of the SEEDA Board will be on Wednesday 16 July 2003, at SEEDA Headquarters, Guildford.



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